. you look at this kind of environment where i would say that investment decisions are not so easy to make. we have a really low interest rate environment, and if you look at these companies that are woven into the fabric of our lives, companies that are going to benefit from strength in america or otherwise, and they're paying you a better dividend yield than the so-called risk-free rate of return, you might be ok. > it's almost a bet on the economy i would dare say. matt, good to have you on the show. > > thank you. time for us to sail out of here for today. coming up tomorrow: traders unplugged! find out if our trading pros think amazon stock is the next apple. from all of us at first business, have a terrific thursday!